FXUS63 KLSX 030917 AFDLSX Area Forecast Discussion National Weather Service Saint Louis MO 417 AM CDT Thu Apr 3 2025 .KEY MESSAGES... - A Flood Watch remains in effect for today through Saturday night. Periods of rain and thunderstorms are expected today through Saturday night. The heaviest rainfall is expected Friday afternoon into Friday night for a large portion of the area. Heavy rain is also likely for southeast Missouri and southwest/south central Illinois on Saturday. - Severe thunderstorms are possible Friday afternoon and evening. The primary hazard is large hail. && .SHORT TERM... (Through Saturday) Issued at 413 AM CDT Thu Apr 3 2025 The primary forecast concern for today through Saturday is heavy rain and flooding potential. There is also a possible severe thunderstorm threat for Friday afternoon/evening, mainly across southern portions of the forecast area. Convection has pushed the effective boundary all the way into far northeast Texas and southern Arkansas. The actual cold front stretches from east central Oklahoma through south central Missouri into south central Illinois based on wind shifts and falling dew point temperatures. The first in a series of short waves is moving through eastern New Mexico/western Texas this morning, and this wave will move through the southern Plains today and across Missouri and Illinois tonight. This will bring our area the first round of rain, mainly this afternoon and tonight. This first round is expected to be relatively light as guidance shows limited instability for convection and higher precipitable water values in excess of 1.5 inches stay south of our area. A few showers may linger overnight tonight, but most guidance shows a break in the rainfall after midnight before the next wave moves in Friday. Friday sees another short wave eject northeast over the boundary, and this one forces low level cyclogenesis over the southeast Plains which enhances the low level southerly flow over the Lower Mississippi Valley. This pushes the boundary into northern Arkansas/southern Missouri and the enhanced instability and surge of moisture will produce periods of heavy rain, likely beginning late Friday morning or early afternoon and continuing until the slow moving low level low pressure system moves east of the Mississippi Valley on Saturday night. The GEFS mean P-wat values shoot up over 1.5 inches across the southern 2/3 of the forecast area which is in the 99.5+ percentile of climatology. Additionally, the ECMWF QPF Extreme Forecast Index continues to highlight an area generally along and south of I-44 in Missouri and I-70 in Illinois between 00Z Saturday and 00Z Sunday. There will likely be a sharp gradient between locations that get an inch of rain or less, and locations that receive rainfall in excess of 4-5 inches Friday through Saturday night, although where that gradient will ultimately be is still uncertain. However, drier air does try to undercut the moisture after the initial surge Friday afternoon and Friday night. That should reduce the heavy rain threat for most of the area, except southeast Missouri and southwest/south central Illinois where P-wats remain high through much of Saturday. With all this in mind, the Flood Watch looks like it's in the right place for the right times. Lastly, some of the thunderstorms on Friday afternoon/evening may be severe, primarily across southeast Missouri and southern Illinois. Guidance is showing increasing MUCAPE during the afternoon as the front surges northward. The RAP looks like it's the most aggressive in moving the front all the way through the St. Louis Metro area an into central Illinois by 06Z Saturday, bringing MUCAPE values up to nearly 2000 J/Kg into our area. The GFS isn't nearly as aggressive, but still brings elevated instability up to the I-70 corridor. Deep layer shear of 50+ kts would be more than enough to produce severe convection in either case given the thermodynamics, with the primary threat being large hail. If the RAP is ultimately more correct, then all hazards are on the table once again. Carney && .LONG TERM... (Sunday through Wednesday) Issued at 413 AM CDT Thu Apr 3 2025 The broad western trough will begin phasing back in with the northern stream as it tracks slowly across the southern Great Plains on Sunday morning. Medium range guidance shows this process taking about 24 hours, and the base of the unified long wave trough swings through the Mississippi Valley on Monday. The GFS and to a lesser extent the ECMWF kick out one last shot of precip over Missouri and Illinois on Sunday as the main lobe of vorticity associated with the southern stream wave moves across the area. At least the past couple of runs of the GFS have shown a closed 850mb low with what looks suspiciously like a cyclonically turning warm conveyor belt feeding warm moist air back into the cold sector of the system. A cross section at 12Z through the system generally along the Mississippi River shows 20+ microbars of lift in a deep layer through the dendritic growth zone, along with at least conditional static instability, if not full on convective instability. If this was January and boundary layer/surface temperatures were 10-15 degrees colder, we might be in for 5-7 inches of snow! As it is, the deterministic GFS is an outlier as none of the ENS members produce snow, and only only three GEFS and 3 GEPS members of the LREF show any snow. That said, I wouldn't be surprised to see a shot of snow or rain/snow mix Sunday morning. The long wave trough remains progressive as it moves east through midweek, although the LREF is indicating uncertainty in the position and amplitude of the wave as it moves across the eastern half of the U.S. The mean agrees well with deterministic guidance showing the trough bottoming out Tuesday morning stretching from east of The Hudson Bay all the way into the eastern Gulf. This opens the door for a cold Canadian high to drop into the Mississippi Valley late Monday into Monday night. The GFS spits out a little QPF as the cold front moves through, but it's questionable whether there will be enough moisture available for precip. The primary impact of this high still looks like sub-freezing temperatures Tuesday morning. The high then move into the Ohio Valley on Tuesday night an Wednesday which brings temperatures back up to close to normal. Carney && .AVIATION... (For the 06z TAFs through 06z Thursday Night) Issued at 1031 PM CDT Wed Apr 2 2025 Dry and VFR conditions will continue overnight ahead of the next system that will bring widespread rain and MVFR ceilings to the mid- Missouri and St. Louis metro terminals. Rain will push back into the region mid to late morning on Thursday and largely continue through the remainder of the period. A thunderstorm or two is possible across the area during this period, but energy for thunderstorms will be very limited to confidence in where and when a thunderstorm develops remains low. MVFR ceilings will develop during the late afternoon to early evening Thursday, pushing up from the southwest. How low ceilings get remains uncertain at this point with some guidance hinting at prolonged IFR conditions. I'm not confident enough in this just yet to include an IFR group in the TAFs. Winds will remain less than 10 kts through the period, with a variable wind direction during the day before becoming northeasterly around 00Z Friday. Delia && .LSX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... MO...Flood Watch through late Saturday night for Crawford MO-Franklin MO-Iron MO-Jefferson MO-Madison MO-Reynolds MO-Saint Francois MO-Saint Louis City MO-Saint Louis MO-Sainte Genevieve MO-Washington MO. IL...Flood Watch through late Saturday night for Bond IL-Clinton IL- Fayette IL-Madison IL-Marion IL-Monroe IL-Randolph IL-Saint Clair IL-Washington IL. && $$ WFO LSX